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  Armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'? Irrefutable Proof the Watchtower Said 1975 Was "Game Over!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's hard to know where to put this link to a polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the watchtower vehemently deny's!

  do i put this under "jw scandals" or "jw beliefs"?

  for decades without the internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like raymond franz jr(god rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications jws made.. can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the summer or fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because jehovah will destroy all the creditors records when he kills them!

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  stan livedeath

  How come the Watchtower was not spending every single penny in 1972-1974 trying to warn people?

  
  

  that is a very good point.

  
  

  i was a pioneer and a servant in the late 60's. back then all the hype was about 1975. but i had quit the cult by 1971. i had no fear or belief in armageddon whatsoever. or god for that matter.

  i recall one elder in 1974 trying to get me interested again. but then he told me he had bought a better car on credit because he knew he would never have to pay for it. last i heard of the silly arse he was a circuit servant.
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  Planning for the future: Funerals

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my dad is now the only jw in my family.

  i am technically inactive.

  i am concerned about when he dies.

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  my father is still alive at 94--in a care home near me. i see him every other day. i'm all hes got. he was baptised --with me--54 years ago. over the last 2 years the local elders have gradually eased off visiting him--i dont think any have been this year. he hasnt abandoned his religion--its the other way round.

  i have power of attorney and handle all his financial affairs, and have a copy of his will.

  when he passes i plan to arrange a simple non-religious service at the crematorium. any jw's are welcome to attend. but i doubt they will find out till long afterwards.
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  A big hello and thank you

  by iwasblind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).

  i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.

  my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.

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  stan livedeath

  i'm off down the pub. anybody coming ?
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  JWs and their views on Sex

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.

  i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.

  they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.

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  stan livedeath

  Because masturbation is unnatural... Masturbation (like homosexuality) ignores or bypasses that natural arrangement. It is one form of leaving 'the natural use of the female' for 'one contrary to nature'... Because the practice is one 'contrary to nature,' the masturbator pays a mental penalty. The habitual practice cripples his social and emotional development, hinders his attaining a healthful outlook and attitude toward the other sex and toward people in general. It can 'turn the person inward' upon himself, making him introverted. Or it can, and frequently does, lead into homosexuality, in which the person, not satisfied with his lonely sexual activity, seeks a partner for mutual sex play." (Watchtower, 1973 September 15, pages 564-565.)

  
  

  who on earth wrote that shit ?

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  No mention of DF in new brochure?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i went on my tablet today and clicked "yes" that i attended the convention (they probably tracked my ip and two elders will show up on my door step).

  i scanned through the new brochure on bringing those who have left back.

  i noticed that not once they mentioned anyone who was df!

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  they put more of a focus on confessing to Jehovah and getting right with Him

  
  

  but why the need to confess to jehovah---isnt he omniscient and sees all things ? if god hadnt forgiven the sinner he would be dead already.
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  JWs and their views on Sex

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.

  i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.

  they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.

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  i'm sure lots of us older guys pray before sex----to thank god for giving us viagra.
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  What triggered your doubts / awakening?

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

  for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

  ...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

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  it took me a few years to face the fact i had no belief in a god. to me its utterly ludicrous. a massive empty space in the sky. yeah right. a total nonsense in this day and age.

  but it was when i was about to become a father for the first time--in 1971--age 23. it came as a shock to realise i could have to make a decision about a blood transfusion--not for me--but my child.

  no way--i was out--there and then. simple.
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  Dwindling Attendance? Here's a quick fix!....

  by Tech49 in

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  2. friends

  so here's a real life experience you will get a kick out of.. our kh has about 90 publishers.

  typical meeting attendance during a co visit is right at 100 or so.

  the rest of the time, attendance is a dismal 50-60, sometimes 70 on a good week!.

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  stan livedeath

  thats all very encouraging lol
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  The flat earth conspiracy!

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.

  i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.

  in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.

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  stan livedeath

  SLIM !!
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  The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  after leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.

  after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.

  the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.

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  stan livedeath

  you have my full sympathy and understanding. i lost mine 30 years ago. life has turned full circle---my son left the cult--i found him --after 25 years of loss--through facebook. he has now all but lost his family too--its a huge price we pay to the cult.